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Kate stark
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Posted - 2013.02.13 20:11:00 -
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Zenito wrote:This thread's about low-sec mining, what's with all the figures for high-sec mining? 60,000,000+ per hour on one character works nicely for me 
because it's our duty to instruct new players that low sec mining is ******* terrible.
as such, we back up our argument with mathematical facts and numbers, such as high sec mining isk/hour > low sec mining isk/hour.
we're nice people here, we don't want to see him wasting his time in low sec. |
Kate stark
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Posted - 2013.02.13 21:39:00 -
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quick maths.
no orca bonuses, max skills 3% implant.
mackinaw: 3x mlus, 3.2 jetcans per hour.
skiff: 2x warp stabs, 2.5 jetcans per hour.
the mackinaw will mine ~30% more ore than the skiff with the warp stabs.
hed is worth ~ 22% more than scordite.
3.2 cans of scordite right now is worth 20.16m isk
2.5 cans of hed right now is worth 19.25m isk.
not only are you making less isk, you're taking more risks and having more logistical problems.
(what can i say, it's wednesday evening and i'm bored. (this is probably also why i'll be alone tomorrow.)) |
Kate stark
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Posted - 2013.02.20 00:31:00 -
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Debra Tao wrote:I am tired of people talking about income figures like this. Get your facts straight, use a spreadsheet or eve isk per hour but don't tell nonsense. 60mil+ on one character for high sec mining is just a lie.
The top income, with orca support, perfect skills and best implants in a Hulk is around 20mil isk per hour. And that's not your average income because it's not possible or effective to only cherry pick Kernite/Scordite.
In low sec, with orca support and perfect setup the top income (for Hemorphite) is around 27mil.
psst, it's actually 39.69m isk/hour. in high sec for a perfect hulk with perfect boosts cherrypicking and short cycling with 100% accuracy.
and 48.51m isk/hour for hed, all things being equal.
however 60m is just plain wrong by any calculation.
Obvious Goon alt that's never mined a day in his life(!) |
Kate stark
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Posted - 2013.02.20 00:44:00 -
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Debra Tao wrote:Cherry picking makes no sense. That's like saying that my trading income is huge because it took me 1 sec to sell an item for a 10mil profit... A correct average of the income in that case must take into account the search and travel that you have to do to only mine the best ore.
Anyway i don't know where you got your numbers but i trust isk per hour more than you ;)
my hulk's tooltip multiplied by the value of the ore. basic maths, really.
also cherry picking in high sec is easy, right click warp fleet. done.
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Kate stark
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Posted - 2013.02.20 00:49:00 -
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Debra Tao wrote:Yeah... but cherry picking only high yield ores you gotta find them first, then approach and hope that someone hasn't mine there. Not to mention the fact that mining barges are slows.
My spreadsheet still disagrees with you, as does EVE IPH.
*shrug* these are the numbers i used to prove that the devblog was incorrect when the mining barge changes were announced so ccp indirectly said they were correct.
scordite isn't hard to find, you just warp to a belt.
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Kate stark
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Posted - 2013.02.20 00:59:00 -
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Debra Tao wrote:Kate stark wrote:*shrug* these are the numbers i used to prove that the devblog was incorrect when the mining barge changes were announced so ccp indirectly said they were correct.
heu wut ? 
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=140094&p=5
check the dev blog itself (linked in the op).
THIS
is the relevant post https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1764945#post1764945
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Kate stark
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Posted - 2013.02.20 19:37:00 -
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Eloy Hernandez wrote:You know, I tried lowsec mining like 5 days back compared to highsec mining. I was mining azure plagioclase in highsec and pristine jaspet in lowsec (.3) and yes mining in highsec made me a little bit more, about 5k difference, but if you go into max refining I think you should make a lot more isk refining the nocxium out of jaspet and it would be worth lowsec mining. Just my thought, OP could make more isk lowsec mining with refining and selling the nocxium. Though I do recommend a venture to mine, its fast reliable and cheap.
P.S lowsec is more fun do to the risk then dull afk highsec mining. Only afk mine when you're busy doing something imo.
yeah you're just totally ignoring the fact that a venture won't mine any where near the quantity of ore a retriever will....
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Kate stark
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Posted - 2013.02.22 08:38:00 -
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Aria Ning wrote:I am actually just curious, why is ore such as Omber less isk/hr than Veldspar? Is it due to their m3 size?
short answer: because it just is.
long answer: because the minerals contained in veld are worth more than the minerals contained in omber.
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